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Rogue / Rogue Vs. Druid / Rogue 2v2 Arena Strategy

September 10, 2008 by Zuggy · 5 Comments 

rogue 2v2 strategyRogue / Rogue vs. Druid / Rogue is no easy match, typically any team with a druid is going to be a tough match for a double rogue team. That said, using systemic decision making and quick reflexes we can learn how to effectively counter these 2v2 teams.

Ideal Strategy, Jump the Druid in Stealth

Ideally what we’re going to try and do is find the druid in stealth and immediately open on him. This serves 2 purposes.

  1. Gets you into combat and prevents you from being sapped
  2. Puts immediate pressure on the druid

If everything goes as planned you’ll kill the druid straight up, but for any of you who have played double rogue for any stretch of time you know this is rarely how it happens.

The Druid is in Bear form, what do I do?

Often times druids are wise to double DPS teams and will immediately exit stealth as soon as they realize there are rogues and enter bear form. This is when this combo can be very difficult.

Let’s be frank, you probably aren’t going to burst a druid in bear form out. So you have a few options. First, and probably the most effective is going to be attack the open and drop a bomb on the rogue. If you get a solid opener and / or if the druid is out of position you can immediately red line the rogue. Make sure you have your rupture up on the rogue as you know he’ll be going for a vanish.

druid arena strategyOnce you’ve got the opener going on the rogue you need to be looking to crowd control the druid. Either via gouge, kick, or if the druid is dumb enough a blind / sap combo. Most games the druid is still going to get a few HoTs and the NS off, but this doesn’t mean you lose. Keep up the damage, evasion tank the rogue and keep working to get the druid out of the fight. You’ve got 2 blinds, a potential sap combo, kick and gouge to punish the druid with.

Is Switching Targets a Good Strategy?

I think many double DPS teams really are reluctant to try a target switch, in some cases this fear is rational. However, if a switch is handled in the proper way it can be very effective. For example, many rogues may panic when they see a two other rogues attacking them. In the event he trinkets a CS or  KS you’ve got him right where you want him.

What if the rogue trinkets my blind?

At this point you should throw the blind, which you’re going to transition into at least 1, probably 2 saps. This will give you a minimum of 20 seconds to have unrestricted damage on the druid. Even if the druid is sitting in bear form 20 seconds is a long period of time, especially if you can evasion tank the rogue for an additional 15 seconds after your crowd controls have ended.

Final Points on Avoiding Crowd Control

On a double DPS team every second counts, it is absolutely crucial you avoid being crowd controlled at all times. In the case of this team you are going to want to save your trinket for a blind, the only scenario you wouldn’t want to use your trinket on blind is if the rogue was just reeling on you and caught you medium / low health in a KS.

It’s very helpful to set the druid as your focus target, this will allow you to watch incoming crowd control on you so you can take the appropriate action to avoid being taken out of the fight. These actions include:

  • Preemptive Cloak of Shadows on cyclone / root
  • Vanish immune on cyclone / root
  • Vanish immune on feral charge
  • Preemptive evasion if you believe the druid may attempt to bash you
  • Preemptive evasion if you believe the rogue is about to blind you (if your trinket is down, note: This is very hard to watch for, especially if you don’t have your focus on the rogue)

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Rogue / Rogue Vs. Shaman / Warrior 2v2 Arena Strategy

August 12, 2008 by S-Scythe · 1 Comment 

shaman warrior 2v2This match is pretty much a Druid/Warrior, except you don’t have to go through the trouble of finding the druid.

Rogue #1

Hop on the shaman preferably before he sets up shop(by shop I mean totems), hit the warrior with a blind and interrupt every heal possible. Pop Evasion + GS if the warrior is focusing on you. Downing the shaman asap, and praying the warrior doesn’t RNG your face off is all you can really do.

Rogue #2

Hop on the shaman as well and keep up with interrupts. Hit the warrior with your second blind, and do your best with your partner to down the shaman in that 5-second window. Use Evasion + GS if you’re being focused.

This match-up is usually very quick, I’m sorry the strategy can’t be more elaborate, but as with every warrior team RNG decides who wins.

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Rogue / Rogue Vs. Warrior / Paladin 2v2 Arena Strategy

August 3, 2008 by S-Scythe · 1 Comment 

rogue arena strategyRogue / Rogue vs. warrior / paladin 2v2 is going to give you a headache, and has a very heavy advantage over you, even if you play 100 percent perfectly you still might get a loss, don’t let this cookie-cutter get you down. There’s two strats you can apply do whichever you feel most comfortable with.

Strategy Number 1

Rogue #1(the one with improved EA)

Bust out on the paladin with your first set of cooldowns, you can do a Cs==>Ks combo, or SnD. Honestly with the huge amount of armor a paladin has, SnD would simply be the better use of points here. Pop Evasion + GS(if the warrior is locking you down) and interrupt as many heals as possible. Hit the warrior with a blind. Once the pally pops bubble run away and reset the fight via vanish(try your best to LoS the warrior during bleed effects so he can’t charge and screw you over. Also keep in mind warriors have a 8 yd. dead zone so stay within that you can evade the intercept) Bandage if you have to, and when you can. Once bubble fades down the paladin.

Rogue #2

Get on the paladin aswell, hit the warrior with a quick sap first. Your choice of opener doesn’t matter as much in this phase of the fight. Pop GS + Evasion(If the warrior focuses on you) and cycle through interrupts with your partner, once the paladin bubble pops get ready to reset the fight. Heal up a bit if you have to, and go in with a garrote opener on the paladin snuff ‘em. Hit the warrior with your blind, during the paly blow-up phase(your partner forced his trinket with his frst blind earlier on in the match).

Strategy Number 2

Rogue #1

Get on the paladin, and manage energy for interrupts. Keep up SnD as it will help damage pressure. Evasion +GS if the warrior gets to you. Once the pally bubbles reset the fight and down him once his bubble is up. Be ready to CC the warrior when going for the kill

Rogue #2

Lockdown the warrior with CS going into KS. Keep him off your partner in anyway you can. Be ready to use Evasion + GS yourself as the warrior might get aggravated and attempt to down you. If the warrior pops his trinket on anything hit him with a blind, and help your partner force the pally bubble. Once the pally’s bubble is up snuff ‘em. Again be ready for a CC train on the warrior when you’re going for a kill on the pally.

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Rogue / Rogue Vs. Warrior / Druid 2v2 Arena Strategy

July 19, 2008 by S-Scythe · 2 Comments 

rogue arena strategyRogue / Rogue vs. warrior / druid 2v2 can be a difficult match up. If you get the opener you win, if not you’ve probably lost. Pay attention if your opponents are human and if that’s the case stay away from them for 20 seconds. Once the match begins you have about 2 minutes to find the druid(before stealth detect eyes come up). If you don’t find the druid, don’t worry Zuggaming has you covered on what to do.

If you find the druid…

Rogue #1 Strategy

Alert your partner the druid has been found, wait for them to get near you, then open up with a cheapshot going into an expose armor. Get ready to pop Evasion + GS because the warrior is going to be wailing on one of you. Blind the warrior and call his trinket. If your partner needs to bandage try to slow down the warrior any way possible to let them get away.

Rogue #1 Strategy

Once your partner finds the druid and you’re alerted hit the warrior with a real quick sap and get ready to down the druid. Open with a garrote going into a kidney shot(as your partner opened with CS and did an expose armor). You should also be ready to pop Evasion + Ghostly Strike as again the warrior will be wailing on one of you. Once the warrior pops his trinket on the first blind, you hit him with a second and continue to kill the druid. If your partner needs to get away to bandage stunlock the warrior or slow him down any way you can.

If the druid can’t be found:..

Rogue Arena Strategy

Both open with garrotes on the warrior followed by ruptures, once the druid pops vanish and do all of the above.

Hopefully you two will find the druid as it will make the match easier, but if not best of luck to you.

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Shadow Priest / Rogue vs. Warrior / Priest 2v2 Arena Strategy

June 21, 2008 by Zuggy · Leave a Comment 

This team actually isn’t too bad. Keep in mind that a warrior can still lock down a shadow priest well, but you guys can really be a handful for his partner.

Rogue Arena Strategy
Once you’ve determined your opponents go for a sap on the warrior. If the opposing priest is a Night elf you shouldn’t have too much trouble finding them. Open up on the priest and on your first 5 points use a Kidney shot. Another 5 points and you’ll probably want to Expose Armor as they have probably popped pain suppression(you may also pop Ar/BF at this time if you’re Ar/Prep.) Continue to lay out dps and Kidney shots, but also be wary of interrupting heals. If your KS is resisted don’t be afraid to continue to Expose Armor or even SnD(regardless of ShS’s yellow damage orientation).

Also if the warrior decides to lock you down simply use an Evasion + Ghostly Strike combo and run circles around the priest(literally just run). Once the priest is down shiv spam crippling poison on the warrior so you can give your partner some breathing room. Mainly shiv spam so that you can give your partner a higher chance to survive, chances are he’s low on mana and popped his shadowfiend already. Also as Shadowstep going toe to toe with a warrior isn’t a very appealing idea.

As opposed to sapping the warrior, sap the priest then open up on the warrior. Continue to lay out DPS and spam shiv to keep him off your partner. Once your partner forces the other priest to pop trinket hit him with a blind, bomb the warrior, vanish and sap and it’s good game from there.

Priest Arena Strategy
Your job is to also hop on the priest, but you will be put under pressure by the warrior. Basically hit the opposing priest with some dots, dispel spam, fear bombs(on the warrior too), and mass dispel the pain suppression if you can find some room to breathe. Most of the time the warrior will be trying to lock you down. Simply fear the warrior as you would any melee class, and you can all the trinket pop for a blind(but keep in mind it probably won’t last the full ten seconds due to the disorient immunity.) With dispel spam, mass dispel on pain suppression and your DoTs combined with your rogue’s damage the opposing priest’s health will be hurting. When you find the priest near death simply do a Focused casting Mind Blast + Shadow Word: Death combo to send him packing. During the shiv spam period(listed above) just kite and DoT as much as your mana allows you to.

That would be the usual way that me and my partner do it, but the alternative(and probably simpler sounding strategy) you could apply is the following(please keep in mind this strategy is going to be harder or maybe plain impossible to pull off with undead opponents):

Alright you too are going to want to lay out some moderate damage, but your main goal is to use fear and force the opposing priest to trinket. Once this happens it’s up to your rogue partner to pull off a blind/sap and you continue to both bomb on the warrior.

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Strategy courtesy of S-Scythe

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